Comments on: ASTD President Bingham Posts Intellectually Impoverished, Embarrasing Article on Learning Part II http://www.thetrainingworld.com/wp/roberts-learning-and-development-editorials/astd-president-bingham-posts-intellectually-impoverished-embarrasing-article-on-learning-part-ii/ Robert Bacal's Commentary and Learning Materials For Trainers, Managers, HR Sat, 28 Jan 2012 17:59:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Allison Rossett http://www.thetrainingworld.com/wp/roberts-learning-and-development-editorials/astd-president-bingham-posts-intellectually-impoverished-embarrasing-article-on-learning-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1443 Allison Rossett Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:08:39 +0000 http://www.thetrainingworld.com/wp/?p=440#comment-1443 One of my students pointed me here. His reaction, and I imagine many of his peers would share it, is that they like that you have taken a strong position and argued it. Right or wrong, it's got them going. Thanks for that. I like that you point to the distinction between informal learning and social learning. Social learning is what it sounds like. It's groups and discussions and collaboration and it is important online and in the classroom. Works in the lunch room too. New media enables more of it and more of it at a distance from the learning organization. How do we leverage that, keep the conversation going, on a blog or through e-coaching or round of golf? On to informal learning. I don't like the phrase much because I don't find it helpful. Deloitte's Nick Van Dam calls it workplace based learning instead. I like that better, think it captures the essence of what's important and what we must strive to make happen. How do we move services, assets, smarts and guidance systems closer to where they are needed? Informal? Well, if we do it well and create blends that take advantage of all the contexts, it will take some serious planning, execution, and measurement. If you mean funky and democratic and vivid by informal, then I'm for it, sure, although there are "issues" too numerous to detail here. Informal just doesn't capture the sweat involved, and the investment too. One of my students pointed me here. His reaction, and I imagine many of his peers would share it, is that they like that you have taken a strong position and argued it. Right or wrong, it’s got them going. Thanks for that.

I like that you point to the distinction between informal learning and social learning.

Social learning is what it sounds like. It’s groups and discussions and collaboration and it is important online and in the classroom. Works in the lunch room too. New media enables more of it and more of it at a distance from the learning organization. How do we leverage that, keep the conversation going, on a blog or through e-coaching or round of golf?

On to informal learning. I don’t like the phrase much because I don’t find it helpful. Deloitte’s Nick Van Dam calls it workplace based learning instead. I like that better, think it captures the essence of what’s important and what we must strive to make happen. How do we move services, assets, smarts and guidance systems closer to where they are needed?

Informal? Well, if we do it well and create blends that take advantage of all the contexts, it will take some serious planning, execution, and measurement.

If you mean funky and democratic and vivid by informal, then I’m for it, sure, although there are “issues” too numerous to detail here.

Informal just doesn’t capture the sweat involved, and the investment too.

]]> By: Robert Bacal http://www.thetrainingworld.com/wp/roberts-learning-and-development-editorials/astd-president-bingham-posts-intellectually-impoverished-embarrasing-article-on-learning-part-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1277 Robert Bacal Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:00:36 +0000 http://www.thetrainingworld.com/wp/?p=440#comment-1277 Re: Bingham ASTD piece on social learning. It appears ASTD has made the original post by President Bingham available only to members. Draw your own conclusions. There IS a Part III of this article series planned, so stay tuned. Re: Bingham ASTD piece on social learning. It appears ASTD has made the original post by President Bingham available only to members. Draw your own conclusions. There IS a Part III of this article series planned, so stay tuned.

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