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Except one variable. Time on Task (TOT) shown to be consistently related to learning. Interesting, because the idea of student engagement, per se, may or may not help learning. In fact, if it results in less TOT it will hinder.

I guess it has to be THE WAY to go if the people generated it.

Well, maybe. Probably not. And certainly not for all outcomes.

Try fixing equipment that way or comparing product x to y or securing data in a computer.

Huge promises, perhaps many benefits, little current activity. http://www.astd.org/TD/Archives/2010/Jan/Free/1001_eLearning_Whats_Old.htm

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I think the variable that we’re leaving out of the equation in the what’s better argument is the most powerful driver in the success of the student. And that’s the student themselves. Talent and drive can be extended by an education, but they can’t be replaced by an education.

Sure, a tuned program can offer excellent mentor and contact activity that would be a greater learning opportunity for a motivated and sharp learner. But how many traditional classes have you been in that docked you in an auditorium with 50 to 100 other nameless sheep to listen to something that you rarely, if ever, applied in that class. This, in my opinion, isn’t better than a non-traditional online program.

Also take into account the type of activities that drive learning in context. I’ve been in traditional writing courses where the feedback I received was completely inadequate. In these instances, the instructor is likely too busy delivering curriculum to spend quality time f2f explaining what can improve. On the flip-side, I’ve taken online courses where the instructor spent the time to provide detailed feedback for improvement. In many of these courses the students all saw each others works in progress as well as the feedback they received on their assignments. To me, that’s a bonus that the traditional classroom can’t / won’t mimic.

There are opportunities to have great experiences, in context, in a distance learning environment. But I think that these are just as rare as they are in the traditional environment.

Both can improve. Both have advantages.

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Just speculating. I wonder if people study this stuff…they must.

I wonder if there’s an overall trend of increasing stinginess at work here — both in terms of money and attention. Perhaps the same forces that drive down aspects of the quality of material goods over time are cheapening aspects of our information as well.

I’m not saying it’s all economics, but perhaps it’s part of the picture.

..or perhaps that the desire to read and interpret data and good journalism has diminished in the general population while the desire to read the latest trash from Aunt Lolo seems to have increased.

I don’t think we can tease out direct cause and effect, but given the death of many paper publishing endeavors, and the difficulty in monetizing access to scholarly material, etc, perhaps the end result is the same.

If you get a chance take a look at my blog post for small business, commenting on an ABC piece which is complete utter crap. http://smallbusiness411.org/wp/small-business-and-twitter/false-claims-for-efficacy-of-social-media-for-small-business-on-abc-no-bs-guide-to-twitter-for-small-business/

This is common. Is it also the case that because the populace is so unthinking and does not want to think, that the number of reputable journalists and scholars is diminishing as is the quality of their work? Because consumer standards are so low, due to Aunt Lolo?

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This comes from perhaps the person who most exemplifies these qualities. Here’s a quickie from @marciamarcia maven of social learning. I enjoy her takes on learning because they get downright funny sometimes. The question must be asked: Does this Brady Bunch refugee and learning research have any acquaintance at all?

She says: Social media enables me to store what I know if my friends’ heads. Glib? Cute? Stupid?

We have to go with glib and stupid. One of the fascinating things I’ve noticed is that while social networkers and media maven talk about contact, they are among the more manipulative people around when they participate in social media, treating others as objects. Is that what this comment reflects?

Many social media people are not to be taken literally I guess. It’s odd, though when you think about what they post you really see how vacuous almost all of what they say is.

His comments are straight forward and clear, and in fact his argument is about the concept, the idea of performance appraisal using pre-cooked phrases. The concept is ludicrous as any reader of my other performance management books will know.

I was just kidding with the title.

Seriously, Frank, some great stuff on your site.

The name is Frank Roche.

I have to admit dismay and amusement at people who can’t even be bothered to read something they are reviewing. [Same said about names. ]

Is there a point when we should be saying: This isn’t the time or place for more learning. I’m just going to stand in this line and enjoy myself by being present?

I think there is.

Anyway Milan, I don`t think it floats all boats equally. Disciplined journalists and authors and reputable sources used to be publishable while my aunt Lolo wasn`t. Now everyone`s aunt Lolo (who is blond and dim) can post due to the popularization of the media.

So, it`s possible you are right, but I don`t think so.

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