Jan 25

Some final thoughts on TRDEV and the outcomes of arrogance.

I was going to let this thread go without additional comment, since, after all, the people who destroyed the yahoo version of trdev through their arrogance, and then, in a pique, destroyed the knowledge and potential learning for those that come later, by sending to oblivion 13,000 messages accumulated over nine years, are gone, out of it, and have finally, one would hope, no longer in positions to do any further damage.

But, as Bev Ferrell saw fit to fire a “final message” back and not allow any discussion, I guess it should go on here. Because there’s much to learn, and also because Bev obviously sees things through a rather unique set of goggles. So here goes. Here post is entitled “Archives and Personal Responsibility”, and lest the good lady start blustering about copyright issues, which she seems not to understand, her message is reproduced for the purposes of commentary, under fair use doctrine. Continue reading

Jan 22

What kind of “trainers” seek to destroy over 10,000 pages of valuable message posts? TRDEV owners!

It truly boggles the mind. The owners of the trdev discussion list have already removed the archives for the list which contain over 10,000 posts contributed over many years, and containing tons of valuable links, information and ideas for those involved with training and development.

I chronicled the abject stupidity of these owners when the list was alive, and explained that they would, in fact, kill the list. They’ve succeeded at that through being paranoid and making sure that nobody could actually find the list unless they were “in the know”. Sure, keep a list a secret, and then bemoan the fact that nobody contributes to it.

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Sep 11

Paranoia Increases as Owner/Moderators Insist on Destroying the TRDEV Community

Time for an update on the TRDEV forum (training and development) currently hosted at yahoogroups. First, the number and quality of posts continues to fall from previous years. Attempts (feeble and somewhat pathetic, but at least well meaning) by Owner/Moderator Bev Ferrell to stimulate discussion continue to fail badly, so what remains is the occasional discussions that involve essentially FOUR people out of 4,000+ members – Mr. Woodward, Ms. Ferrell, Mr. Howe, and on occasion Don Clark, who has been absent lately.

More reports are coming out about heavy handed actions by the owner/moderators to control the content, which clearly, has discouraged people from contributing. Censorship appears to have increased. Fred Nickols, a well respected long time member of the training and consulting community posted elsewhere about his posts being censored for posting a LINK, and that, even after what must be 5-10 years of participation the trdev folks mistrust him enough to moderate his posts (ie. censor and control).

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