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10 May

Learning happens where? Trainer suggests in the mouth.

This one of the examples where a trainer seems to hold beliefs and writes something that has to make your head shake. The key element here is highlighted in red. If you can figure it out and explain it, let me know in commentary.

A Trainer wrote:

> My point is that it was an effective ploy to create awareness of a
> consumer item, to “engage” them in talking about it, but it wasn’t enough
> to convince people to pay to see the film.

I believe I understand, and the principles of attention and engagement are psychologically the same across marketing, training etc.

The wording concerns me (call me picky). Engagement comes FIRST psychologically, and THEN comes the talk. They are not the same thing. The talk is the indicator engagement has occurred.

In marketing it probably doesn’t matter. In training it does. In training we mistake activity for learning, appearance of participation for learning, and so on. And lastly interactivity with learning. There are kernals of truth relating those things to learning, but we are not terribly good at understanding the limits of them in relation to learning.

Hence we get holy grails of training, or myths about what trainers MUST do to create learning online or off.

> I would maintain (and there is plenty of psycho-pedagogic research to > support this) that ALL learning takes place both in the head and theĀ  mouth, contrary to what you seem to believe. But I would go much further > and insist that it also takes place in the rest of the body and everything
> else that allows for the development of the complex process we could call
> individuation/socialization (including professional skills and academic
> mastery).

Ok. I have no idea how you define learning, so I’ll stop here. Let me know if I can learn about your views by stuffing foods down my gullet, and especially if they are brain-friendly snacks.

>
> What I find funny is that an educator convinced that learning takes place
> in the head (which is certainly true in itself) can be convinced that that
> very fact excludes its taking place in the mouth, in bodily posture,
> facial expression, attitude, personality, physical presence, perception,
> reflexes, etc. I learned a long time ago to play jazz piano (eventually
> picking up a lot of theory as well as conditioning my fingers to hit the
> right notes and usually find them before my brain - slow and ponderous as
> it is - can tell me where they are), but that doesn’t prevent my music
> from also taking place in my feet, which play an essential role that no
> teachers I know of ever attempt to teach (they probably don’t need to, but
> work on rhythm, which is more body than brain, is essential even for
> classical music).

Here’s a thought. Let’s remove your brain and see how well you learn through your fingers.

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